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Now this is going WAY TO DAMN FAR
03-18-2009, 05:15 PM
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Now this is going WAY TO DAMN FAR
The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment Wrote:WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.


"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."


The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"


Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group's early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part, " There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran's personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable."


Commander Rehbein reiterated points made last week in testimony to both House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees. It was stated then that The American Legion believes that the reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate that VA treat service-connected injuries and disabilities given that the United States government sends members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. The proposed requirement for these companies to reimburse the VA would not only be unfair, says the Legion, but would have an adverse impact on service-connected disabled veterans and their families. The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.


"I got the distinct impression that the only hope of this plan not being enacted," said Commander Rehbein, "is for an alternative plan to be developed that would generate the desired $540-million in revenue. The American Legion has long advocated for Medicare reimbursement to VA for the treatment of veterans. This, we believe, would more easily meet the President's financial goal. We will present that idea in an anticipated conference call with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel in the near future.


"I only hope the administration will really listen to us then. This matter has far more serious ramifications than the President is imagining," concluded the Commander.

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03-18-2009, 05:37 PM
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Hmm.. from the brief bit of it that I read, even (dare I say..) I kind of agree with you on this one.
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03-18-2009, 05:47 PM
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I read that on digg yesterday and was disappointed greatly. But it was pointed out in the comments that this is a press release from the American Legion, which doesn't like Obama (putting this in a lightest manner), and it's highly exaggerated and vague. So before you get all riled up you might want to sit down and get the official statement, press release, and or legislation.

Edit: Just in case you think I'm against the American Legion or something, I'd like to point out that I volunteered about 3-4 hours a week with the local chapters and the local VFW.
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03-18-2009, 06:49 PM
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To a certain degree, I agree with Hades. Not much to be gained from press releases. I am waiting to see what else falls out of the tree.
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03-18-2009, 09:34 PM
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If im reading this right I have to agree with Obama-mama.
Why should private insuramce pay for medical treatment ?? That means us unlucky, over priced payees to healthcare will end up paying for it
instead of every TAX paying American. Hell people, the VA is there for this, not Blue cross/ Blue shield.
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03-18-2009, 09:38 PM
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you are reading it wrong, it says he wants the VA to STOP paying for the disabled vets and blue corss blue shield start paying for part of it with the rest falling on the disabled vet including the monthly premium
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03-18-2009, 09:45 PM
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[THANATOS Wrote:.AnGeL"]you are reading it wrong, it says he wants the VA to STOP paying for the disabled vets and blue corss blue shield start paying for part of it with the rest falling on the disabled vet including the monthly premium

is Obama fucking nuts ??????????
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03-18-2009, 10:20 PM
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Like I pointed out this shit is 80-90% BS.
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03-21-2009, 11:38 AM
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Bah... both our Countries need to learn a few things. Support the troops not the war, and take care of our soldiers. I come from a long line of Military men, I also have family who are injured from combat. Our Countries seems to forget the most basic things for our troops... maybe a more pro-active stance from civilians will help
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03-21-2009, 12:38 PM
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?
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03-21-2009, 04:00 PM
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Now you will hear a true story related to this topic.

About 10 years ago my mother heard that the Italian government was handing out war pensions to WWII vets.
Both my parents are Italian and my father served in the Italian army during this war. He told my mother to forgwt about it
since the money was probably NOT worth the trip to go claim it. So it was forgotten for 2 more years UNTIL they made thier
regular 3 year visit to family. Well my father went to make his claim and received $30,000.00 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now here we are, supposedly a wealthy country, treating illegal aliens BETTER than our own vets. Its a disgrace !!!!
Oh, but lets help out AIG, pffffffft
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03-21-2009, 05:42 PM
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That is something I have never understood about this country. We spend more time taking frustrations on the guys who volunteered their time and energy and their life then we do putting the blame on the folks who are really at fault.
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03-21-2009, 09:17 PM
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[THANATOS Wrote:.Atomic"]That is something I have never understood about this country. We spend more time taking frustrations on the guys who volunteered their time and energy and their life then we do putting the blame on the folks who are really at fault.


You mean Congress?? =))
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03-21-2009, 09:57 PM
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[THANATOS Wrote:.Atomic"]That is something I have never understood about this country. We spend more time taking frustrations on the guys who volunteered their time and energy and their life then we do putting the blame on the folks who are really at fault.


You mean Congress?? =))


I didn't name names :-? :-? :-? =))
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03-22-2009, 11:46 AM
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You didn't have to Big Grin

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