Official answer

[{XxX}mike&ikes!]

Mav's answer

{XxX}Mavrik Wrote:Official answer:

Ladies and Gents,
Freak is a big boy and if he chooses to be an asshole I guess you all have the right to ban him from any and all Thanatos / Company resources. In addition, you all have the right to ban our entire clan if you like (since you do control your servers and pay for them).... that's really your choice. Triple X was founded on the concept that there will never be a so called leader that decides everyone's fate or speaks their behalf. The reason this is an adult clan is for that reason and that reason only. Everyone has a voice in this clan that is equal. So as the founder, I have no right nor do I feel obligated to force a member out of the clan without a majority consent. Last I checked this was a game and all clans were just a bunch of online friends with mutual enjoyment of the game. I'll be damned if I allow anyone in any "clan", whether it be my clan or any other clan, tell me how to act, think or do. This is Americas Army the game and not Americas Amry (eventhough 3.0 looks really fucking realistic ).

As you can see I have made no threats or promises, nor have insulted anyone. I've merely stated facts about people and their ways. Use your own judgement as to if you want to ban the entire clan within your 24 hour time limit.

Once again, thanks for the GAMES !!!! (emphasis on GAME)

Best regards,
Mav

(New response from the rest of the clan)

Well I thought we'd start this out with a nice quote from my good friend Gold (because it relates to how I feel when I read anything by Atomic):

[THANATOS Wrote:Gold.GT"]WTF are you reading anyway !!!! Im trying to remain calm but when YOU post my blood starts to boil.

Alright guys, you're going to love my nuts. I'm going to go ahead and clear everything up. There is NO "leader" for Triple X. We choose to operate by a "majority rules" system. You're entitled to your leadership system, but please do not tell us how to operate our clan. You "control your members," we'll deal with each other how we see fit. We run the clan by voting and we all pay for everything. Mav is the founder, sure...but we can all speak for ourselves.

This is not a clan of 13 year olds {insert joke here about Freak}. We already killed Piggy, so please stop with the comparisons to Lord of the Flies.

I think I have become familiar with what happened. Freak is apparently now a hacker since Homebrew has made that insinuation, that must mean that all of THANATOS believes it (One member represents the whole clan, right?). I would still like to see clear, solid proof. If you've slapped a hooker, you've slapped a Chop, it's the same shit.

Also, who the fuck is Packyrat?

Anyway, what this all boils down to is you guys wanting us to do "something" with Freak. Your failure to have any sense of humor or hypersensitivity to competitive trash talk is not reason for us to remove him from our clan. We like Freak more than you and won't be kicking him from our clan for being an asshole.

With that said, what we're basically saying is that we're done with the drama. I sucked so much e-dick getting my clan into this tournament and after we won it, I realize it wasn't really worth it. The only thing that I really enjoyed about this was getting on better terms with LAG and NOC. It looks like we fix some bonds and then break new ones. That's how it works {insert "wise" gaming relationship advice here Companyman}.

This is what is pissing me off:

[THANATOS Wrote:.Atomic"]Guys, you seem to have a hard time understand this. Freak went above and beyond the call of being rude. To be honest, you guys are about to get me spun up. You don't wanna do that so I suggest you don't.

Are you serious? Is this the reason you're going to slap away everyday? What do you think we have been responding to? And don't even try to pull that e-bully technique. To be honest with YOU, it was a waste of energy for you to type that last sentence.

Then there is this nice little nugget:

[THANATOS Wrote:.Atomic"]
Your internal problems aren't our affair. What we want is Freak dealt with. If you can't do that or you are unwilling to do that say so and we can get the ban in place and move on. If you think that by continuing to come here and complain it won't do you any good. So here is your choice as stated. Deal with Freak or get banned. He represents XXX after all.

Alright playboy, let's get something set in stone, I am not complaining about anything. I will not complain to you or any of your e-friends. Secondly, if our internal problems aren't your affair, please stop saying DEAL WITH FREAK! DEAL WITH FREAK! You have already banned him from everything to do with your clan, what more is there you want? This is our clan, do not try to tell us how to run things. If we're still playing by your ultimatum then we have collectively decided to get banned. SlapChop.

Now that we're in a great mood after we've slapped away all our troubles, happy gaming.

Best regards,
Triple X Clan

P.S.

[[THANATOS].Shiver-]

Heh, kthxbye, I guess?

[{XxX}mike&ikes!]

[THANATOS Wrote:.Shiver-"] kthxbye

Yes. Goodnight all.

[[THANATOS].Lionheart]

We're not telling you how to run your clan. We're simply saying if you don't care, then why should we? If you all don't want to do anything about one of your members despite his actions against this clan (and don't give me that simple, "competitive trash talk," him going on a noob account and TK'ing our members intentionally is not trash talk), then we will simply hold your clan accountable. It seems your clan doesn't mind at this point, so therefore, don't bother trying to play on our server as you all will be banned. And don't try to come on our server with noob accounts to TK or "own" us, that just speaks very lowly of your clan. If you don't take this game too seriously, then you won't need to do that. Enjoy your gaming somewhere else because it will not be welcome on our server.

That is all

EDIT: Thread locked: Only Clan Leaders/Founders can post beyond this

[[THANATOS].Atomic]

I have had enough you XXX's bullshit. You are a bunch of COWARDS! That's it plain and simple. That isn't name calling that is a fact. You hid behind your keyboards and think that just because this is a game you have the right to be complete dicks. Well you don't and you won't be doing it on our server or on our forums. You say you don't wanna deal with freak cause you are all equal then fine you will be treated as equals and will suffer the same fate. It is people like you and clans like yours that give players a bad name. You wanna have a loser like Freak in your midst. Show's how adult you really are. Now get the hell off our forum and take that twatwaffling cumbubble of douchemissile with you. Ban begins now.

[=[C]=Companyman]

The "Commune" approach to organizing a group of people may initially sound noble and noteworthy. The thought of not having to take responsibility for your brother can seem like a dream come true. The plan sounds wonderful, but you have failed to take it to it's logical conclusion.

To have such a society, you must have certain "understandings". These "understandings" lay out certain boundries that should not be breached. Even very loose groups have a "code of conduct" in dealing with members of their own groups. Eventually to have credibility with other clans, you have to be able to police your own ranks. No one wants to deal with a group that can't assure them their members will play by their rules.

At one time, =[C]= was an outcast among most respectable clans. We got tired of getting banned from other servers and we got tired of listening to everyone complain about us. At one time, we were down to 7 or 8 members. We started making peace with other clans, and promising to behave in their servers. I made it simple... If YOUR bad behavior gets me banned in any other servers... find yourself some new tags. When =[C]= leaders abandoned the clan, I took over. I spent the next three years BUILDING relationships instead of tearing them down. I took responsibility for my members and earned the respect of my members so they would follow me. We've worked hard to get where we are, and the battle is far from over.

I can give you some very genuine advice: Act as a team, and take responsibility for not only your own actions, but those of your members. Earn the respect of your members and the gaming community, and guide your members into becoming assets to the gming community. The world is smaller than you think, and there will come a time in the future that you may need the goodwill of other clans. In your present form, you do not qualify for membership in the AAClanleaders.org. Your input into the future af AA gaming is diminished and minimized because of that. I sincerely hope you reconsider electing a leader to represent your members in future situations that require real leadership.

=[C]=Companyman